hopefully apple can save us.

you're one of my fav tweeters

@broox @harper played around with Wink?

@nickf @harper I haven't yet.

@broox @harper it's not perfect but it's a good system integrator. Looks skimpy on the surface but digging deeper it does the job.

I think you need a sub. That certainly helps. /cc @tmeyeratplay

@nickf @broox does it work with smartthings? Or replace smartthings?

@harper @broox yeah you do

@harper @broox It seems to be a competitor. I've heard more success stories/recommendations about Wink which is what lead me there.

@broox @harper what do you hate about sonos sw?

@broox yo Derek I just saw a @groupongoods for @Sonos speakers. I know you've mentioned having those so thought u might b interested

@JoeBorn @harper the biggest thing for me is the amount of steps there are to listen to my own, curated music (or any music really).

@JoeBorn @harper I also wish I could set some sort of volume profiles for my rooms. I wind up tweaking individual room volumes way too often

@JoeBorn @harper finally, the OSX software is grossly outdated.

@broox @harper we spend a lot of time thinking about how the stereo has evolved in 20 years, number of steps is a place we've gone backwards

@broox @harper what are your thoughts about tactile buttons, old fashioned remotes and such?

@JoeBorn @harper physical buttons are great as long as they're supplementary IMO. I started buying remotes for home automation switches.

@broox @JoeBorn i actually think the software for sonos works. well. and that is because hiromi can always play music when she wants. WAF

@broox @JoeBorn it could always be better.

@harper @broox geeks tend to be tolerant of inefficient setup, and critical of inefficient user interfaces, mainstream just the opposite

@harper @broox rare, in my experience, for a mainstream person to complain about a few extra clicks as long as they don't have to think hard